今天跟学校各方面聊过了. 整个学校都特别团结. 再跟学校的人聊过之后,有几点想法想跟大家说说.

1. 如果现在NB的执政党看到有很多人都反对两校合并的话, 他们是不敢接受明天上午报告的建议的.原因很简单, 如果他们失去了民众基础,就意味着他们在下一次竞选中有可能会失败. 政治家的政治把戏就是赢得更多的选票.如果他们的决定威胁到他们的政治权力,他们是不会采取这次调查委员会的合并建议的.

基于第一个原因,请每一位同学都行动起来.发信给以下这些决策人.让他们知道我们的声音.如果说NO的人多了,他们自然就会离这个提案的决定越来越远了. 选票对他们来说还是最重要的. NB省的教育投资,学生的贡献大与政府. 而且,我们国际学生对于NB省高等教育的重要性是无可厚非的. 所以,肯定每一位同学行动起来. 把你们的想法通过发邮件的方式,让每一个政客都知道.
[B]
Contact Information for Politicians

Members of the Legislative Assembly[/B]

[COLOR="Red"]HON. SHAWN M. GRAHAM (L), MLA[/COLOR]
Kent, Electoral District 15 / Legislative Assembly
Phone: (506) 453-2144
Fax: (506) 453-7407
EMail Address: [email]premier@gnb.ca[/email]
Mailing Address:
Centennial Building
P. O. Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1

HON. DR. ED DOHERTY (L), MLA
Saint John Harbour, Electoral District 34 / Legislative Assembly
Phone: (506) 453-2342
Fax: (506) 453-3038
EMail Address: [email]Ed.Doherty@gnb.ca[/email]
Mailing Address:
Chestnut Complex
P. O. Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1

HON. ROLY MACINTYRE
Minister / Regional Development Corporation
Contact Information
Phone:(506) 453-2277
Fax:(506) 453-7988
EMail Address:Roly.MacIntyre@gnb.ca
Centennial Building
P. O. Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1
Canada

HON. KELLY LAMROCK (L), MLA
Fredericton-Fort Nashwaak, Electoral District 43 / Legislative Assembly
Phone: (506) 453-2523
Fax: (506) 453-4960
EMail Address: [email]kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca[/email]
Mailing Address:
Published Address Disabled Access
Place 2000
P. O. Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1

ABEL LEBLANC (L), MLA
Saint John Lancaster, Electoral District 36 / Legislative Assembly
Phone: (506) 453-2548
Fax: (506) 453-3956
EMail Address: [email]abel.leblanc@gnb.ca[/email]
Mailing Address:
Departmental Building, West Block
P. O. Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1

TREVOR HOLDER (PC), MLA
Saint John Portland, Electoral District 35 / Legislative Assembly
Phone: (506) 453-7494
Fax: (506) 453-3461
EMail Address: [email]Trevor.HOLDER@gnb.ca[/email]
Mailing Address:
Old Education Building, East Block
710 Queen Street
Fredericton, New Brunswick
E3B 1C5

MARGARET-ANN BLANEY (PC), MLA
Rothesay, Electoral District 32 / Legislative Assembly
Phone: (506) 453-7494
Fax: (506) 453-3461
EMail Address: [email]Margaret-Ann.BLANEY@gnb.ca[/email]
Mailing Address:
Old Education Building, East Block
P. O. Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1

HON. STUART JAMIESON (L), MLA
Saint John-Fundy, Electoral District 31 / Legislative Assembly
Phone: (506) 453-3009
Fax: (506) 453-4984
EMail Address: [email]saintjohnfundy@hotmail.com[/email]
Mailing Address:
Centennial Building
P. O. Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1

HON. MARY SCHRYER (L), MLA
Quispamsis, Electoral District 30 / Legislative Assembly
Phone: (506) 453-2001
Fax: (506) 453-2164
EMail Address: [email]mary.schryer@gnb.ca[/email]
Mailing Address:
Sartain MacDonald Building
P. O. Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1

HON. JACK KEIR (L), MLA
Fundy-River Valley, Electoral District 37 / Legislative Assembly
Phone: (506) 453-6461
Fax: (506) 444-5405
EMail Address: [email]jack.keir@gnb.ca[/email]
Carleton Place
P. O. Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1
Canada

JEANNOT VOLPÉ (PC), MLA
Leader of the Opposition
Madawaska-les-Lacs, Electoral District 55 / Legislative Assembly
Phone: (506) 453-7494
Fax: (506) 453-3461
EMail Address: [email]Jeannot.VOLPE@gnb.ca[/email]
Mailing Address:
Old Education Building, East Block
P. O. Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1

[B]Saint John Common Council[/B]

Mayor Norm McFarlane
City Hall
15 Market Square
P. O. Box 1971
Saint John, NB
E2L 4L1
Phone - Bus. - 658-2912
Phone - Res. – 635-0385
[email]norm.mcfarlane@saintjohn.ca[/email]

Deputy Mayor Michelle Hooton
122 Carmarthen St.
Saint John, NB
E2L 2N8
Phone - Cell – 650-1967
[email]michelle.hooton@saintjohn.ca[/email]

Councillor Jay-Young Chang
278 Waterloo St.
Saint John, NB
E2L 3T5
Phone – Res. – 657-9987
Phone - Bus. - 693-0884
[email]jay.chang@saintjohn.ca[/email]

Councillor Stephen Chase
30 Anglin Drive
Saint John, NB
E2K 3P9
Phone - Res. - 652-2966
[email]stephen.chase@saintjohn.ca[/email]

Councillor Ivan Court
2 Valentine Boulevard
Saint John, NB
E2M 5G9
Phone - Res. - 672-0872
Phone - Bus. - 658-5358
[email]ivan.court@saintjohn.ca[/email]

Councillor Bill Farren
873 Edgehill Row
Saint John, NB
E2M 4G7
Phone - Res. – 674-8102
[email]bill.farren@saintjohn.ca[/email]

Councillor John P. Ferguson
33 Vista Ridge Cres.
Saint John, NB
E2J 4K4
Phone - Res. – 674-1237
Phone - Bus. - 658-2492
[email]john.ferguson@saintjohn.ca[/email]

Councillor Peter McGuire
88 Dexter Dr.
Saint John, NB
E2M 5K2
Phone - Res. – 674-1151
[email]peter.mcguire@saintjohn.ca[/email]

Councillor Glen Tait
19 Skyline Dr.
Saint John, NB
E2M 4K2
Phone - Res. – 696-6250
[email]glen.tait@saintjohn.ca[/email]

Councillor Christopher T. Titus
300 Balmoral Crescent
Saint John, NB
E2M 4V3
Phone - Res. - 672-6261
Phone - Bus. - 658-2580
[email]christopher.titus@saintjohn.ca[/email]

Councillor Carl A. White
23 Cedarwood Dr.
Saint John, NB
E2K 4T4
Phone - Res. – 658-0701
Fax - Res. - 652-7691

2. 大学别忘了,我们是在加拿大. 加拿大的办事效率我们都知道. 就算通过了,还不知道要等多少年去实施. 就算实施了,等换了执政党.先前执政的政党的政策就会被推翻. 所以,这次合并的可能性微乎其微.

3. 纽芬兰纪念大学也曾经被建议与当地的一所学院合并,但是最后也被否定了. 这个为NB这次的提案树了一个很好的先例. 如果他们真的敢实施合并, 唯一可能就是全名的支持. 但是,现在的情况刚好相反. 所以, 合并的可能性再次降到很低.

4. 跟学校各方面聊过之后,自己的感觉是学校领导绝对不会让合并的事情发生. 昨天去听了校长讲话的同学, 应该被他煽情的演说所打动. 学校的注册办主任也让我向大家说明一下,请大家不用恐慌,不要担心. 这次合并的说法在很大程度上只是流传的言语.

5. 政府也会自己算一笔帐.就算合并, 他们的开支将会是多少. 开支将会是很庞大的. 不是轻易就能实施的.

6. 这次提案也不是完全都是坏的. 在这次提案中, 委员会向政府提出让NB政府支付国际学生差价费用的建议. 这次提案中,可能还会提到的是CO-LOCATION, 而不是MERGE. 意图在于把大学和学院建得近一点.这样对学生的服务会更集中一点. 最起码,食堂能大点,吃的种类选择多点.

再次肯定大家,抽出一点时间,写出你的想法,让政策决策者都听到我们的声音. 让我们团结起来,力挺自己的大学.

像我一样毕业了的同学,也请各位发信.最为一位普通的UNB的毕业证,我们也应该贡献自己的一份力量.

学校的国际学生ADVISOR以个人名义,给大家写了一些话. 希望大家能够冷静的看问题.

Hi everybody,



Consider this a personal email from me to you.



I understand that a lot of the students have concerns with regards to the recent news. But the news which have just leaked are rumors of suggested changes which may or may not happen. Students who are graduating in October will still be graduating with a UNB degree.



I understand the panic. But if you are talking to any of your friends, just ask them not to worry. Things are getting out of control and most of it are just rumors, not facts. As students living overseas, we have enough on our minds already.



If there’s anything else, please let me know.



Boon

以下是一些英文的参考资料,希望对大家写信的时候有帮助.

Talking Points on the PSE Commission Report and Its proposal to Transform UNB Saint John into a Polytechnic Institution

Leaked PSE Proposal Recommendations Related to UNBSJ:
In an interview with L’Acadie Nouvelle one of the co-chairs of the NB Post-secondary Education Review Commission made it clear that the commission’s report was going to recommend:
• The destruction of UNBSJ and NBCCSJ and the replacement of them with a polytechnic institute that focuses on technical training.

Issue:
Such a proposal would eliminate access to university education for a large portion of Saint John students who cannot afford to go away for their education. It would also mean that Saint John is the only city of its size in Canada without a University.

History of UNBSJ:
• In the early 1960s local politicians and members of the business community lobbied for the creation of a university because:
o they recognized that Saint John’s image as a city was harmed by the fact that it did not have a university
o many local young people could not afford to go away to university and were therefore being denied access to careers in fields such as education, law, business or engineering.
o City leaders feared the loss of talented people from the city as those who left for university often did not return
• In the initial stage UNBSJ was a 2 year feeder university
• Through the lobbying of the local politicians, members of the business community and the UNBSJ community the campus was expanded to a 4 year degree granting institution in the 1970s offering Arts, Science and Business degrees to thousands of students each year.
• Over 6,000 students have graduated from UNBSJ, over half since the early 1990s.

Why Saint John needs a University:
• 2,800 students currently attend UNBSJ and 75% of these are from the local area.
• Many students must live at home and work one or two part-time jobs in order to afford their university education.
• Over 75% of all jobs in Saint John are non-industrial e.g. education, government, business, health, education, finance, social work, culture, media. Without a university in the city lower income families will not be able to afford to have their children educated in these fields.
• Saint John is forecasting a growth in the economy in the coming years that will increase the demand for individuals with a university education.
• If we wish to have access to medical education in Saint John, we must have a university campus that offers general arts and science programs
• Students who go away to university often stay away. A university is vital to retaining our young men and women, as well a being key to efforts to repatriate them.
• It is hard to attract skilled people to an area/city without a university
• Roughly 70% of university graduates who attend university in the province stay in the province
• The university is an important contributor to the culture and vibrancy of the city. Thousands of our alumni work as teachers, lawyers, nurses, etc. in Saint John. Faculty and staff contribute to community organizations as board members, volunteers and research resources to the community


Implications of replacing UNBSJ with a Polytechnic Institute:
• Polytechnics have developed from colleges, but never from universities. Saint John would have the reputation of being the first city in Canada to lose its university.
• There is no other comparable city in Canada without a university presence. This would damage Saint John’s image and would make the city less attractive to those we hope to attract.
• A polytechinc is not the same as a university. Universities are rooted in general Arts and Sciences programs that provide the communication skills and thinking skills that are required in all fields in today’s world.
• All polytechnics in Canada have grown out of colleges and were not created by collapsing universities.
• Polytechnics (see [url]http://www.polytechnicscanada.ca/[/url]) provide training in technical fields. To go beyond the highly specialized employment for which these students are prepared, they must often obtain a university degree. This degree, for example, prepares them for management positions or other better-paying and highly satisfying careers.
• Many diplomas given out by polytechnic institutions are not the equivalent of university degrees, and they are not usually accepted when students apply for admission to professional programs (eg. law, medicine, education) at universities. Transferability of credits will be a problem.
• The proposal to collapse two very different institutions—UNBSJ and NBCCSJ into a polytechnic—makes it clear that they are not proposing an institution like the Massachusetts Institute of Technology ([url]http://web.mit.edu/[/url]) or the California Institute of Technology ([url]http://www.caltech.edu/[/url]) which are full fledged universities with under graduate and graduate level arts and sciences programs, as well as high level programs in the technology sector. They do not offer the technical programs found at the polytechnical institutions that have developed out of community colleges (see [url]http://www.polytechnicscanada.ca/[/url]).
• Saint John students would not have access to liberal arts and general science degrees in a polytechnic. This is a serious consideration because currently more than 50% of the UNBSJ enrolments are in the Arts program.
• There is no data or indication that the more than 2000 students taking these programs want to pursue technical training. These students will thus be forced to leave Saint John if they wish to pursue post-secondary education.
• Many students will not be able to leave the city for financial or personal reasons. The Saint John Campus of UNB provides university education to many adult learners, single mothers, as well as partners and spouses of people who work full-time in the city. These people will not be able to move. Thus this would limit the educational opportunities to the very people who need it the most.
• Even among those who could afford to pursue university education outside of Saint John there are many reasons why they may wish to remain in the city (family responsibilities, work responsibilities and even levels of maturity).
• While the polytechnic may eventually draw students to the city, it is unlikely to do so for several years, if not decades. It took more than 35 years for our two institutions—UNBSJ and NBCC—to attain their current size and academic reputation. Institution-building takes time, as well as money.
• Replacing UNBSJ and NBCC with a polytechnic is likely to result in a significant reduction in the number of faculty and staff employed in the hybrid institution. These well paid white-collar jobs will be lost to Saint John and this will affect the social, cultural and economic fiber of our community
• The loss of the UNBSJ campus will seriously affect UNB’s reputation as a national university. The total student population will be significantly reduced in size, and UNB may lose some of its post-graduate specializations (eg. Programs in which the M.A., M.Sc., M.Ed., and Ph.D. are awarded) as faculty in Saint John are part of the School of Graduate Studies.
• Thousands of UNBSJ alumni will see the image of their degree tarnished if their institution disappears and is replaced by a polytechnic.

Action

It is imperative that the Liberal Government recognizes that the citizens of Saint John and the surrounding area do not want to lose UNBSJ. The report is rumoured to be released by the end of the week and once the government has received it, and made comments on it, it will become more difficult for the government to change its position.

Things to do:

• Write, e-mail, and phone Shawn Graham, Ed Doherty, and other local politicians (see the list below) to express your concern. Personal contact is important.
• Encourage as many friends and family members to contact these people as well. The more people who contact them in the next week, particularly students and people unconnected to the university, the better.
• Points to stress:
o Your concern for your children’s and grand-children’s educational opportunities
o Your concern about the decline in the potential number of local employees for your business with university level education
o Your concern about the potential impact on an already too high poverty rate in the city
o Your concern about the image of this city and the impact on the social and cultural opportunities available
o Your past support for Liberal candidates (if you voted for them) and your uncertainty about your support in the future

楼主不是毕业了吗~??看来很积级哦`~不错不错~
难道是为了XXX
哈哈~!!大家都努力吧~!

我在想怎么写，在想用稍微对他们工作能力的否定来气他们，那么多届执政党都没有干出这种事情，他们居然干出来了~和她妈的陈水匾一个逼样~就知道搞分裂~

[quote name='妈..她亲我']我在想怎么写，在想用稍微对他们工作能力的否定来气他们，那么多届执政党都没有干出这种事情，他们居然干出来了~和她妈的陈水匾一个逼样~就知道搞分裂~[/QUOTE]
写完发我一份

who is XXX? lol

FACEBOOK上也有很多支持的声音：
“UNBSJ in Danger”-- [url]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6109331582[/url]
“My Saint John Includes UNBSJ”-- [url]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5258852086[/url]

下面链接里也有一封从“My Saint John Includes UNBSJ”群里找到的，Christos给 Premier 的信，大家可以参考参考
[url]http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=5258852086&topic=3130[/url]

是个大MM~
很M哦

[quote name='rnb']楼主不是毕业了吗~??看来很积级哦`~不错不错~
难道是为了XXX
哈哈~!!大家都努力吧~![/QUOTE]

不为哪个个人.只为自己的母校好! 只有母校好了,强了,自己的将来才能更自豪的说自己是UNB人.

[quote name='slimshady']who is XXX? lol[/QUOTE]

你能说点正事吗?

[quote name='∞阿美∞']FACEBOOK上也有很多支持的声音：
“UNBSJ in Danger”-- [url]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6109331582[/url]
“My Saint John Includes UNBSJ”-- [url]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5258852086[/url]

下面链接里也有一封从“My Saint John Includes UNBSJ”群里找到的，Christos给 Premier 的信，大家可以参考参考
[url]http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=5258852086&topic=3130[/url][/QUOTE]

啊？支持阿？
你是说支持什么？

英文不好 ，请也给我一份。大家一定要团结。要都觉得与自己无关有别人做就够了的话。等到时真有事了全他妈傻眼就老实了。看热闹是也要分时候。现在不是看热闹的时候。请大家顶起来。

[quote name='妈..她亲我']啊？支持阿？
你是说支持什么？[/QUOTE]
昏，你没看标题啊。。。
UNBSJ也是UNB的一部分！

有谁写一份我们联合签名

那个国际学生的adiviser boon是不是开玩笑啊？

他说Students who are graduating in October will still be graduating with a UNB degree，言外之意是？

[quote name='ak47']那个国际学生的adiviser boon是不是开玩笑啊？

他说Students who are graduating in October will still be graduating with a UNB degree，那其他人拿什么？[/QUOTE]

你理解错了.他的意思是,最近毕业的同学最担心.所以,这个是特此帮他们声明一下. 跟其他同学没关系. 别误会了

[quote name='JuJu']你理解错了.他的意思是,最近毕业的同学最担心.所以,这个是特此帮他们声明一下. 跟其他同学没关系. 别误会了[/QUOTE]

懂了...

对了，老外那边您比较熟，老外这次也一样会受到合并的影响，学校的那个学生会有没有类似反对合并的请愿的活动？

开会那天去了好多老外，我问了几个老外朋友，他们也很反对。

请愿应该安排在星期五当天上午，在city hall门外静坐什么的。

就老外那示威静坐的两下子估计解决不了问题...每年都有人拿写着反对涨学费的纸壳子在外面转，学费还不是年年涨

大家集思广益，不能等死，因为这次合并后果不是开玩笑，真的太严重了

说得好！支持搂主的倡议。这里是民主国家，民众的声音很重要，绝对能够影响政府的决策。但大家也不要恐慌，在读的和即将要读大学的同学的文凭肯定不会降格(文凭都是标注University of New Brunswick)。这里是法治国家，一切政策的改变都不会随意影响前人原享有的政策。所谓文凭会贬，没学可上，学校要关闭完全是无稽之谈。这种院校合并的想法任何人都可提出，但问题是任何的可行性项目的想法都会让公众公开的讨论。政府不敢也绝对不可能将这莫大的项目黑箱操作。因此媒体放风出来的目的也就是听听大家的反应，一旦反对的声音多了，项目也就要泡汤了。我们不希望此项目成立，因此大家就要团结起来发出你的反对声音。可能有些同学会认为，反正也不会影响我目前的学习和文凭，那就懒得去管它。如果有这样想法的人多了，那就真有可能在位来的5年或10年后改变unbsj. 大家肯定也不希望看到自己的母校伦为一个理工学院。

总之一句话，反对合并，团结起来发出反对声音，不要恐慌，安心学习。

楼主这贴很强........~~...竟然还附带英文参考资料的...
我想其实很多政客心里都明白...这个事做了可能Ivring之类的能投资他们点...但终究得靠人民把他们选上台的...
这事老外学生也都不干 怎么着加上家长,老师怎么着也2,3千张选票呢~
不过说实话
我们留学生实际对政客的影响有限...
因为人家会问:can you vote...
但我们也要把这会造成nb没经济外援的事实让他们掂量清楚...

已经群发了.

但不管结果如何,希望大家冷静下来.团结起来去SAVE UNBSJ...