反藏独(ZT)

2008年3月21日18年前

1、不总是有人说西藏是中国1949年“才”占领的吗，那就来点史料：1653年清朝皇帝确立了对西藏宗教领袖达赖和班禅的册封制度及其继承人灵童“转世”的金瓶。（In 1653, Qing Emperor offically gave the title Dalai to the head of Gelug Schools of Buddhism in Tibet. Since then any reincarnation aka successor of Dalai has to be approved and confirmed by Chinese central government.)

现在的达赖也是中国政府认定(officiated)的，是1940年由当时执政的民国政府认定。

2、藏独不是说西藏不是被中国领土、达赖被zf逼走的吗，达赖可一直在中国政府里任有公职滴：1953年达赖被推选为中华人民共和国佛教协会荣誉会长，1954年为达赖喇嘛当选为第一届全国人民代表大会常务委员会副委员长（In 1954 current Dalai Lama became Deputy Chairman of the Standing Committe of the National People's Congress aka the parliment of PRC),
直到59年出逃前都在中国政府管辖下的西藏自治区任职。

SO, if Tibet had been an independent country then, how came a "foreigner" like Dalai could hold such an important position in the parliment of PRC?

3、要求恢复西藏从前在达赖众僧人政教合一统治(theocracy)下农奴时代的“美好时光”？请看"Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth" by Michael Parenti(记着，一定要给出文章的题目和作者的名字，因为youtube等网站不让发带网址链接的贴子。)
原文：
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感谢河友厚积薄发提供中文翻译：
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youtube上的录像“Michael Parenti - Tibet: Friendly Fuedalism? ”

没有比较就没有进步，顺便请愤愤们看看TG统治下新西藏,题目就叫Tibet Diary - Episode 1~6 on youtube。

其它好的有关西藏的youbube video还有mitbbs同学们提供的
"Tibet WAS,IS,and ALWAYS WILL BE a part of China"
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“Inferno under Dalai Lama & aristoric rule”
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建议：大家可以把这些好的video加到自己的favorite里、Rate打5星、youtube里可以直接post a video response。

在其它网站留言，为了防止网站删除带链接的帖，大家要给出video、文章的标题，方便别人搜索。

4、无脑藏独说什末他们和偶们文化、语言不同并有自个的Flag啥啥的，所以要求独立，那偶们就得帮助丫提高逻辑思维能力：西班牙的Basque、Catalonia也拥有自己独特的文化、历史、语言、音乐、Flag等，为虾米西班牙政府不让它们独立出去捏？（Why does Spain NOT allow Basque and Catalonia to become independent countries while both regions have their unique culture, languages, music, flags?)

加拿大的Québec、大英帝国的威尔士、苏格兰、法国的科西嘉（Corsica）、布列塔尼(Brittany)均可按照此逻辑推导一下,美国的印第安人、澳洲的Aboriginal也可以拿出来扯一扯。。。

不爱多打字的同学，顺便喊两句啥的, 正好和上藏独的口号:
Free Basque!
Free Catalonie!
Free Québec!
Free Corsia!
Free Brittany!
Free Scotland!
Free Walse!

新添加的还可以Free的有阿布哈兹、南奥塞梯、德涅斯特河沿岸及北科索沃：
Free Abkhazia!
Free South Ossetia!
Free Pridnestrovie!
Free Serb-dominated Northern Part of Kosovo!

河友江城孤舟提供的多国语口号：[url]http://www.cchere.net/thread/1483899#C1486437[/url]

5、有藉口免煮柿油而呼唤藏独的，不妨请看厚积薄发兄弟找到的纽约时报（NYT）的文章：“How China Got Religion” By SLAVOJ ZIZEK

"...the problem with Tibetan Buddhism resides in an obvious fact that many Western enthusiasts conveniently forget: the traditional political structure of Tibet is theocracy, with the Dalai Lama at the center. He unites religious and secular power — so when we are talking about the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama, we are taking about choosing a head of state. It is strange to hear self-described democracy advocates who denounce Chinese persecution of followers of the Dalai Lama — a non-democratically elected leader if there ever was one. ”

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厚积薄发那也提供中文翻译文本。

建议：不妨把这些话带引号直接copy过去，根本不用自己再多说什末。

6、河友在下面提醒,西方媒体试图树立汉藏对立、挑动种族情绪，大家用词时一定要注意，可采用Seperatists/ Rebels/Gangsters in this Lhasa/Tibet riot，区别对待。尽量把视线集中在西藏分裂分子对中国民生进行的破坏，对中国主权的侮辱，对中国人民的暴力行为等。谴责暴力、强调汉藏都是中国人是主题。
Tibetan and Hans are all Chinese. The violent roit in Lasha is instigated by Tibet Seperatists who have greatly upset the local public security and threatened the safety of local residents (Including hans, tibetans, mongols and other minorities).
谢谢颜子
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外国游客见证拉萨暴乱报道、现场图像等
Tibetans attacked Chinese, say Lhasa tourists
By Thomas Bell
瑞士游客：
"The young people were in action and the old people were supporting with screaming. Howling like wolves, that's how they supported them.

"Anything that looked Chinese was attacked. I saw at least seven to eight Chinese people attacked with stones and fists."

He saw one old Chinese man rescued from the mob by elderly Tibetan people, and believes the intervention of a Canadian tourist saved another life.

加拿大游客：
John Kenwood, a 19-year-old Canadian, believes he saw a man die. "They were knocking people off motorcycles," he said. "One man was hit several times in the head with a large piece of sidewalk." When his attackers left him he was not moving.

Mr Kenwood also saw boxes of stones being supplied to Tibetan throwers.

"To me it was like it was planned," he said.

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中文文本
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一个台湾MM的Blog让我们知道更多真相链接出处

录像
CCTV
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澳大利亚旅游者拍摄的
Tibetan protest images released
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7、英文不好的如何跟贴、留言反击对手？英文不好的各位（包括偶自己）不是袖手旁观，拱手将网上的舆论阵地让与藏毒和反中斗士们。英文不象对手那样洋洋洒洒，那就借助西人写好的、比较公正的揭露达赖之流真面目的文章，这样既可以回击藏毒和脑残的免煮人士，又可以让感兴趣的读者去追看原文，何乐不为？(但是，请注意在不同的地方和场合应该使用的不同的技巧。)

这里提供详细的、分解成短小段落、可供copy & paste的西文段落：[url]http://www.cchere.net/article/1489262[/url]

这里还有可供选择的西人英文文章：[url]http://www.cchere.net/thread/1483899/2#C1484922[/url]

这里有不少揭露达赖及其所代言的藏传佛教的真面目，偶已经把它们分列入下：
·藏传佛教的求神问鬼、精神控制、大一统政教合一论:[url]http://www.cchere.net/article/1484725[/url]
·藏传佛教圣战论(Jihad):[url]http://www.cchere.net/article/1484748[/url]
·藏传喇嘛教的性丑闻:[url]http://www.cchere.net/article/1484758[/url]
·达赖和纳粹、东京沙林毒气大王子麻原登等恐怖极端分子的亲密关系：[url]http://www.cchere.net/article/1484875[/url]
·曼荼罗和世贸大楼的灰飞烟尽：[url]http://www.cchere.net/article/1484906[/url]

以上的所有文字片断欢迎大家随便使用、随便传播、随便粘贴，无需具名。也欢迎大家把好的宣传建议和video、外媒对这场暴乱的有明显歪曲导向的报道、BBC/CNN/NBC/ABC/FOX/TIMES/GUARDIAN/
NYT等重要媒体可以留言的网址链接集中在这个帖子里，以方便大家。
这里有几个留言的地址：[url]http://www.cchere.net/thread/1488469#C1489324[/url]

If people have the rights to let their vioce be heard,
it should not be only the Tibetan's