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Irving停摆和英国BP在SJ合作的第二个炼油厂项目

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[url]http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/07/24/nb-irving-refinery-1012.html[/url]

Irving shelves 2nd Saint John refinery
Last Updated: Friday, July 24, 2009 | 1:43 PM AT Comments60Recommend95
CBC News

Irving Oil Ltd. has announced that it will not proceed with the proposed second oil refinery project in Saint John, N.B.Irving Oil Ltd. has announced that it will not proceed with the proposed second oil refinery project in Saint John, N.B. (CBC)

Irving Oil Ltd. and BP have halted plans to build a second oil refinery just outside of Saint John, officials announced on Friday.

Kevin Scott, Irving Oil's commercial director of refining growth, announced the decision about the second refinery project at a Saint John news conference.

A study conducted by Irving Oil and the international oil giant over the past 18 months concluded that the project was not viable during the economic downturn and the softening demand for petroleum products.

"We did everything possible to understand how we might continue with this project under the extremely challenging circumstances in which we find ourselves," Scott said.

"Despite those best efforts, we've recently come to the very difficult decision that Eider Rock, as we envisioned it, at the scale and the timeline that we studied, is not possible at this time."

Kenneth Irving, the president of Irving Oil, said the company will work to maintain the competitiveness of the existing oil refinery in the city. He said Irving Oi

Irving Oil had partnered with BP to build the $8-billion project, which is known as Eider Rock, and construction was supposed to start in 2011. At its peak, the refinery project was to create 5,000 construction jobs and 1,000 permanent jobs.

"It became clear, particularly over the past year, that the market conditions for refining have changed since BP and Irving Oil entered this memorandum of understanding," said Iain Conn, chief executive of BP's refining and marketing business in a statement.

Premier Shawn Graham said he's disappointed to hear the refinery project is being abandoned but he said the decision appeared to be inevitable.

"We understand the rational today, as we know 80 per cent of the global refinery projects have been put on hold or cancelled," he said.

"Irving Oil was working hard with British Petroleum to secure a significant investment for this project but global economics have changed significantly over the past two years."

Graham said the province has still achieved some success in positioning itself as an energy hub in eastern North America. He points to the new Canaport LNG terminal that just opened in Saint John.

The premier said there are other energy projects the province is looking at such as wind power, solar and tidal.
Delay announced in November

Irving Oil announced in November that it was going to break the refinery construction into two phases and extend the completion timeline to eight years from four.

The first phase would produce half the intended amount of oil a day, 150,000 barrels. The company's existing refinery processes 300,000 barrels of oil per day and is the largest in Canada. The company is also considering producing more diesel.

The company said the delay was due to a labour shortage in the area as well as global competition, rising capital costs and limited availability of material.
唉........热热闹闹的讨论了两三年,这就停摆了???为了cash flow把retail chain都lease out了........SJ的房地产还指望着这个construction进行一次飞跃呢.......

那些从AB和BC注资SJ做地产的人,不知道会怎么样........我担心的还真多........

对于前任雇主,我除了佩服,就是迷茫.......
我觉得最惨的是Fluor的员工, 本来为这个项目招了好多人, 现在Eider Rock 建不成了, 大概都会lay off吧.
[quote name='人在江湖飘']唉........热热闹闹的讨论了两三年,这就停摆了???为了cash flow把retail chain都lease out了........SJ的房地产还指望着这个construction进行一次飞跃呢.......

那些从AB和BC注资SJ做地产的人,不知道会怎么样........我担心的还真多........

对于前任雇主,我除了佩服,就是迷茫.......[/quote]

流量呼呼的看装B
Irving choices Friday to announce this bad news, seems to mininise the repercussion to the city. This is corp. business decision but the effects will tremendously affect S.J. overall economiics, business growth, not to mention people's propensity to consume. capital spending and house prices are slashed. Let's wait and see what Kenneth will do to "cover" the negative effects as the family are quite concerned and understand their prominent influence in the community.
Mayor Court's Statement Regarding Eider Rock Refinery Announcement

Issued on behalf of Mayor Ivan Court by the Communications Department of The City of Saint John

Today, Irving Oil and BP announced that they will not be moving ahead with construction of the Eider Rock Refinery.

As Mayor of Saint John, I am sure that this was a very difficult decision to make. For the City, the prospect of a new refinery meant jobs, growth and further solidifying our place as Atlantic Canada’s Energy Hub.

We are fortunate that over the past few years. We have been successful in positioning ourselves as an energy hub and in diversifying our economy. Irving Oil has successfully diversified its energy offerings as well and will remain the anchor of the energy hub.

Saint John is leading development across the entire Atlantic region. Our City is experiencing record high employment levels, positive housing starts and continued investment.

We are also realizing growth in education, health care and tourism sectors.

We will continue to grow and develop through public and private projects such as:

· Peel Plaza Regional Justice Facility;

· Canaport LNG facility coming online as Canada’s first LNG terminal;

· Development at Eastpoint;

· J.D. Irving Limited’s investment in rail infrastructure;

· One Mile Interchange;

· Bell Aliant’s announcement of fibre optic technology to the home;

· Tucker Park health sciences cluster; and

· Marco Polo Cruiseship Terminal

And of course, Irving Oil’s new international headquarters on Long Wharf shows the company’s continued commitment to Saint John.

We are encouraged that the company will continue with the environmental permitting process for Eider Rock. I have offered my assistance to Irving Oil in whatever ventures they may wish to pursue in the future. Irving Oil plays a vital role in our community and we will continue to work with and support each other.

Early in our mandate, Council set a number of priorities and we remain committed to them. The City will aggressively pursue economic opportunity, plan for future development and work to enhance the quality of life afforded to our citizens.
[quote name='z2']其实内部人早就知道这个消息了,NB现在只能靠我们移民做飞越吧[/quote]

当时传的时候就觉得悬。。 上次修天然气管道不就是一帮4零5零人员去抗议么?
private owned好处就是不用向shareholders交待,作决定的速度和对市场的反应就比较快,行动力比较迅速。

如今这经济,加上inflation,油价不管怎么起伏,margin已经越来越小了。加拿大和美国东部对gasoline的consuming的需求增长也满足不了第二个refinary的供应量。其实不看对市民的影响,Irving是做了一个对他们business负责的决定。

毕竟他们是商人,不是慈善家。
[quote name='cuocuo']我觉得最惨的是Fluor的员工, 本来为这个项目招了好多人, 现在Eider Rock 建不成了, 大概都会lay off吧.[/quote]

好像对Fluor很熟哦?还知道project名字,请问你也在Fluor上班吗?saint john?
Calgary是lay off一批了,反而saint john 还好。
[quote name='sky1126688']好像对Fluor很熟哦?还知道project名字,请问你也在Fluor上班吗?saint john?
Calgary是lay off一批了,反而saint john 还好。[/quote]

其实还好吧. 只要是在Refinery上班的应该都知道Fluor吧~:cool:
[quote name='cuocuo']我觉得最惨的是Fluor的员工, 本来为这个项目招了好多人, 现在Eider Rock 建不成了, 大概都会lay off吧.[/quote]

周五公司已经保证了,所有参加这个project的员工都会重新安置去新的岗位. 应该不会有lay off,不过新的岗位应该就会减少了。
[quote name='忆冢']周五公司已经保证了,所有参加这个project的员工都会重新安置去新的岗位. 应该不会有lay off,不过新的岗位应该就会减少了。[/quote]

公司保证的只是Irving Oil 员工
活逼该,装逼装过了。。。
还有热情洋溢满怀期待的人们也该看清现实,再大的企业,不是你的,就别指望他,
只有本事是自己的,没逼本事傍谁都不好使。
[quote name='nolimited']活逼该,装逼装过了。。。
还有热情洋溢满怀期待的人们也该看清现实,再大的企业,不是你的,就别指望他,
只有本事是自己的,没逼本事傍谁都不好使。[/quote]

那你还曾经教导我,要做好人,学先进,傍大款??????你又唬弄我????

人家是商人是商人是商人,不是慈善家,不用对NB负责,不用对劳苦大众负责,只要对自己的bank account负责。更何况人家是哥伦比亚人,说不好听点只不过是在NB买些地皮做生意..........
第二个炼油厂建不成对SJ的经济肯定有影响,甚至整个NB都要受波及。工作机会就不用说了,在建的或已建的房地产也会降价。这样的消息对在这边工作生活的大多数人都不是个好消息。
[quote name='人在江湖飘']那你还曾经教导我,要做好人,学先进,傍大款??????你又唬弄我????

人家是商人是商人是商人,不是慈善家,不用对NB负责,不用对劳苦大众负责,只要对自己的bank account负责。更何况人家是哥伦比亚人,说不好听点只不过是在NB买些地皮做生意..........[/quote]
是啊,但是要自己有本事才能傍到大款的啊,连人家大款都不认识,不接触,买几块儿
旁边的地皮啦,开个什么小买卖,弄个什么相关的东西等着大款来,这哪叫傍大款啊。。。

押宝在大款身上,大款不来就完败的主意,绝对不是啥好主意。。。
[quote name='nolimited']是啊,但是要自己有本事才能傍到大款的啊,连人家大款都不认识,不接触,买几块儿
旁边的地皮啦,开个什么小买卖,弄个什么相关的东西等着大款来,这哪叫傍大款啊。。。

押宝在大款身上,大款不来就完败的主意,绝对不是啥好主意。。。[/quote]

.......大款我倒真是认识,可惜没钱买地,也没钱做小买卖,啥相关的东西我也不沾边。顶多跟人家家门口画个圈,然后自己蹲圈里面向路人兜售盗版碟.......

说得好像我真的要傍大款一样.......:redface:

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