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[紧急]大家一定注意!University Ave出现歹徒伤人!

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[quote name='墙皮']对于这位朋友所说所提的意见,个人有几点解释。首先本人和学生会也正准备和当地警察局高层,学校,以及大使馆取得联系,但是因为这个礼拜是长周末假期,没有人上班工作,所以不能直接找到这些人去面谈或者取得电话联系。但是我已经发过紧急邮件给这些人。我相信在周二开始上班的时候,我就会和他们取得联系,并且向他们告知事态发展的严重性,以及将来对sj国际人员,包括留学生和移民产生的恶劣影响,我相信他们也会明白这件事情如果处理不当而造成的严重后果。而且我也相信当地警察也会在尽可能短的时间内将歹徒绳之以法。

另外对于这位同学提出的宣传的做法,如果大家喜欢这样做,那当然没有问题,但是在短时间内个人不建议大家这样做。因为这样做很容易将矛盾激化,有时候反而会产生负面的影响。当然,如果当地警察迟迟的不给我们一个满意的答复的话,那时我们自然可以用其他适当的手法来从侧面解决问题。

再者说,sj的高层也不是傻子,发生了这样的事情,他们也知道对当地的经济发展,包括吸引国内的投资,吸引留学生来到unbsj,都会产生极其恶劣的影响,我想他们也不会坐看歹徒再这样为非作歹下去。

对于事情的细节,我想暂时案情没有结束之前还不要和大家透露太多,因为发这个贴的目的最主要的就是提醒大家注意安全,这个目的已经达到了。而且我也没有得到当事人得允许将事情的具体经过公布于众,目的结果达到了,过程请大家就不要再深究了。

最后提一句,可能有的朋友还不知道。我现在是中国学生学者协会的主席,名叫张帆,也就是许多人提到的大头。也请大家相信学生会,我和学生会,一定会尽全力帮助受害的同学同胞找回自己的利益。[/quote]

好!!


咋才走了就发生那么大的事儿...大家出门随时提高警惕, 注意安全!
在这么小的一个成熟, 除了这些事情. 中国人都应该团结起来. 不管是学生会也好,学校也好, 还有其他各个方面都在努力. Bonnie这位我们在学校最信任的人也在帮我们.所以,大家还是先冷静下来. 明天学校会组织个方面开会的. 学生会也已经在尽权力联系各个方面,争取把事情做得最周全.

静坐,抗议都是在政府,警察,和学校没有任何实际进展之后的做法. 不建议一开始就这么做. 大家可以看到警察局巡逻的车辆已经增多了.学校在第一起事件发生之后就已经招集主要人员开会. 学生会也已经同胞使馆了. 华人协会也正在通过正常渠道反映这个华人社区对蓄意伤人事件的关注,并督促尽快调查出案件事实. 各个方面都正在努力.

所以,再次请大家还是多给各方面一点时间. 我相信各方面都会向大家通报最近的进展情况的.
[quote name='Leaf']两天前我就提出发到国内大的网站去,写得凄惨一些,最好声泪俱下,然后各大网站一转载,祖国同胞一同情,然后社会一共鸣,大使馆一出面。肯定比学生会给市长的压力要大,问题解决的快。有啥怕激化的,他们敢动第一手,咱们为什么还怕事大呢?他们理亏在先啊。现在都挨打了,还要讲礼仪。一味的忍让。。。。。。听说过什么叫“隋靖政策”吗?抗日战争苦啊。

要不光指着我们写信摧人家,得等啥时候去啊。

要不然我们大家在这里猜一猜我们亲爱的大市长,在百忙之中会写一封什么样的回信呢?反正大家等着也是等着,不能让智慧也跟着加拿大人的节奏变懒了。

我先猜一下啊:(我英文不好,替他翻译过来了)

亲爱的中国学生会主席:

由于适逢Civic Day, 所以到今天上班才看到你的这封E-mail(要是总理写的话,当时就看到了)。

在SJ地界竟然发生了这样的恶劣的中国留学生被伤害案件,我做为SJ的市长,对此事及受害学生深表歉意,同时向肇事者表示最强烈的谴责。(和没说一样)

我已经亲自打电话给公安局长XXX了,指示他们一定要从严从重处理这件看似平常,却深深伤害中加两国人民友好关系的恶性治安案件,要求他们增派警力,加强巡逻。并同时指出,本案不管涉及到谁,一定一查到底,绝不姑息迁就,并借此开展一次打击骚扰外国人的专项斗争。力争在九月开学前还university Ave一个安静的空晚。(全是官话)

同时,在案情没有查清之前,请广大中国留学生不要过于冲动,做出一些过激的行为,请充分相信我们政府,充分相信我们的公安干警。我们会用最短的时间给你们一个满意的答复,将犯罪份子绳之以法。(安抚一下我们,怕我们到ottwa上访,他就乌纱难保了,同时也在拖延时间)

最后,我代表SJ人民,对多年以来,中国留学生为SJ社会,经济,人文方面做出的贡献表示感谢。让我们SJ,从原来无人问津的小山村,变成今天国际知名的大都市。同时也希望更多有识之士来SJ投资发展。在此让我们共同忠心祝愿SJ的明天会更好。(打一巴掌,给一个甜枣,不但没说啥有建设性的话,还给SJ做个广告,既当了婊子,又立了牌坊,还说得大家心里暖洋洋的,打人的事就忘了。。。。。就这么被他蒙混过关了。。。)[/QUOTE]

哎,啥也不说了,顶
[quote name='UNBmichael']对!如果碰到就喊一声,我就住在路边.立马冲下去干死那些小B样的![/QUOTE]

别忘了打 911
[quote name='小枫叶']完全统一组织集体静坐 绝食更好 引起媒体注意[/quote]

对,宁为玉碎,不为瓦全!

让他们不长记性!
[SIZE="3"][B]“HOME” gives me such “WARM”ceremony

- The Letter from me, a Chinese International Student [/B]

In the past two weeks, about late July 2007, two criminal attacks happened on University Ave, Saint John, NB, Canada. Several Chinese International students physically suffered from beating up by some individuals. Soon after the attacks happened the victims reported to Saint John local police department. Police officers handled these cases in regular procedures. Of course, we would thank for the city police on this behalf for their hard works, however, I have to add a little more about the general police officers. They might be to busy to be racially sensitive about the cases in terms of how they handled the first case. Here I do not have the rights to release any details. Until the second case broke out within 10 days, again on University Ave, the management level of the Police force took is sincerely by adding more police forces perhaps around the university Ave.

These two motivated attacks happened in the past two weeks not only physically and emotionally traumatized the victims, but also seriously disturbed the life of all Chinese students at UNBSJ. Most of Chinese students already knew about these cases by now. There we have to be aware that today we are living in an information technology era. Bad things are traveling some fast. The students are now afraid to walk on university Ave even under the day light. Some new students have even thought about going back to China.

And here, let’s not forget these new immigrants in town. What should be considered in their mind? Is Millidgeville where the university at still a safe area for people to live? Is Saint John still a place embracing internal friends in its best multicultural environment that supposed to have its beautiful culture diversity to offer? Two criminal attacks had just happened within 15 days! WOW! How about the local safety to be considered for the whole Saint John community?

My heart was breaking when I heard that my fellow Chinese friends were beating up by some brainless young people. No one, there is no one should have to undertake such incident in a foreign land, however, Saint John is an actually such friendly and beautiful place in the Maritime Provinces. I know that these criminal acts were definitely not the act representatives of the local community, but I truly know better that Saint John as an immigration developing city, it deserves to have much better things having to offer for the others.

My self, as a senior student in the university, at this point, suddenly felt ever missing home so … much. Even though I want to make Saint John my second home since I been here for about a half of the decade already, if I could, but this place, at this point, how should I consider this placed a HOME, when there was always someone yell to us “ xxx go back to your country.” Is just that hard to live in peace, to enjoy life, to be ourselves?

To tell you the truth, I feel more than upset about the incidents, I feel angry, but I understand I need to calm the anger, because it is not the time to smash things, rather it is the time we need to press the officials to immediately identify the individuals who did hurt our friends, and these individuals have to be lawfully responsible and charged for what they had done.

In recent years, sexual harassment, egg attacking, and verbal abuses often violated international students around the University area, which happened often on University Ave. When egg incident happened two years ago, Chinese Student & Scholar Association took initiative and contacted with the officials in needs. Chinese Embassy in Ottawa, the local Chinese Culture Association, The City of Saint John and The Police Force, including the local Medias and Saint John community as whole had shown their great support. Chinese students believed their student body, and I believe that CSSA would always stand strongly under these solid supports.

“The police will be re-interviewing the victims and will be pressing to identify the individuals responsible.” Yes, for sure, criminal acts have to be handed to the Police Force, and we would love to hold our best faith to it. However, certainly, [COLOR="Red"]the criminal acts did cause much grief to the students, to our community, and extend to Saint John community as whole. [/COLOR]

The Police will have to take this into a greater consideration than ever. As the concern goes in our Chinese community, I believe that the majority of citizens in Saint John will support us in their best.

Chinese International Student in 5th year
University of New Brunswick, Saint John
Canada
August 7th 2007[/SIZE]
如果说被送医院不算严重的话,那只有死了才算严重了~~
前年砸鸡蛋,今年伤人,好家伙~不知以后是不是直接砸车砍人了~
说真的~
就是国家主席都有被刺杀的,何况我们,一切的一切都说不准下一次会怎样..
不想做民族歧视的牺牲品......
哎~我真觉得光这么等真是没有用的,他们感觉不到我们的愤怒..时间一久,我们又会迎来下一次的"愤怒"......
讲实话,我也有国人的劣根性,看客心里.就像看3论坛,光看不说话,一副事不关己,己不忧心的味道...再加上时间一冲,就更淡了..就像前年的鸡蛋,因为是新生,我真没法体会当时大家的心情,因为都没闹得很大,没听说过什么为此游行抗仪的事,觉得因不太厌重吧`
哎~洋人对动物的尊重先是从被人看做是疯子的少数人的游行,抗仪开始的....
我只想说其实真想为我们的权力争取些什么,既使是很微薄的力量.
事情真的别捂着,我知道当事人有其苦衷,怕家人的担心,怕人们背后的闲言闲语,但图片的能力是旁大的,拍些伤口的照片,去国内的热门论坛写写,不为影响谁,就为我们这些和既将成为留学生的孩子们提提醒,说到底,老百姓生命和安全高于一切啊.(各人愚见,不带任何别的)最后,向伤者问好,愿其早日康复.
[quote name='rnb']讲实话,我也有国人的劣根性,看客心里.就像看3论坛,光看不说话,一副事不关己,己不忧心的味道...再加上时间一冲,就更淡了..就像前年的鸡蛋,因为是新生,我真没法体会当时大家的心情,因为都没闹得很大,没听说过什么为此游行抗仪的事,觉得因不太厌重吧`
哎~洋人对动物的尊重先是从被人看做是疯子的少数人的游行,抗仪开始的....
我只想说其实真想为我们的权力争取些什么,既使是很微薄的力量.
事情真的别捂着,我知道当事人有其苦衷,怕家人的担心,怕人们背后的闲言闲语,但图片的能力是旁大的,拍些伤口的照片,去国内的热门论坛写写,不为影响谁,就为我们这些和既将成为留学生的孩子们提提醒,说到底,老百姓生命和安全高于一切啊.(各人愚见,不带任何别的)最后,向伤者问好,愿其早日康复.[/QUOTE]

英雄所见略同。。。。。

只可惜生不逢时,孤掌难鸣。

咱们也别跟着瞎着急了,我看了这么多天,都开始怀疑整件事了,真的有人被打了吗?

为什么我们在这干着急,却没有人把事情详细的讲一下呢,连发生的时间都含糊不清,有说“过去两周”,有说“LATE JULY”,到底最近一起发生在什么时候呢(今天日期是2007年8月7日)真的不明白,为什么要藏着捂着呢?

我也非常同情伤者,原你们早日康复,大家出来上学都不容易。可是有这么多人为你担心,为你想办法,难到你还不能勇敢的站出来,至少也得说声谢谢吧?(个人观点,谨供参考)
Let the CSSA President deals with the local authorities and the university. We should back him up 100% and wait for his directions. Put the letter on hold so that it wont stir up the situation. Keep it cool, and give the local authorities another chance to dig deep into the problem. We want a permenant resolution and this requires some time i believe. We should trust our elected president.
大头发这帖子最初的目的是让大家提高警惕,出门小心,避免更多类似的事情发生。
整个事件无需置疑,本人也相信对大头等人的处理事情的能力~
那天看着一大帮子人为这事情折腾到清晨,真感慨学生会的干事不好当!
大头好好干!姐姐支持你!
[quote name='pigilee'][SIZE="3"][B]“HOME” gives me such “WARM”ceremony

- The Letter from me, a Chinese International Student [/B]

In the past two weeks, about late July 2007, two criminal attacks happened on University Ave, Saint John, NB, Canada. Several Chinese International students physically suffered from beating up by some individuals. Soon after the attacks happened the victims reported to Saint John local police department. Police officers handled these cases in regular procedures. Of course, we would thank for the city police on this behalf for their hard works, however, I have to add a little more about the general police officers. They might be to busy to be racially sensitive about the cases in terms of how they handled the first case. Here I do not have the rights to release any details. Until the second case broke out within 10 days, again on University Ave, the management level of the Police force took is sincerely by adding more police forces perhaps around the university Ave.

These two motivated attacks happened in the past two weeks not only physically and emotionally traumatized the victims, but also seriously disturbed the life of all Chinese students at UNBSJ. Most of Chinese students already knew about these cases by now. There we have to be aware that today we are living in an information technology era. Bad things are traveling some fast. The students are now afraid to walk on university Ave even under the day light. Some new students have even thought about going back to China.

And here, let’s not forget these new immigrants in town. What should be considered in their mind? Is Millidgeville where the university at still a safe area for people to live? Is Saint John still a place embracing internal friends in its best multicultural environment that supposed to have its beautiful culture diversity to offer? Two criminal attacks had just happened within 15 days! WOW! How about the local safety to be considered for the whole Saint John community?

My heart was breaking when I heard that my fellow Chinese friends were beating up by some brainless young people. No one, there is no one should have to undertake such incident in a foreign land, however, Saint John is an actually such friendly and beautiful place in the Maritime Provinces. I know that these criminal acts were definitely not the act representatives of the local community, but I truly know better that Saint John as an immigration developing city, it deserves to have much better things having to offer for the others.

My self, as a senior student in the university, at this point, suddenly felt ever missing home so … much. Even though I want to make Saint John my second home since I been here for about a half of the decade already, if I could, but this place, at this point, how should I consider this placed a HOME, when there was always someone yell to us “ xxx go back to your country.” Is just that hard to live in peace, to enjoy life, to be ourselves?

To tell you the truth, I feel more than upset about the incidents, I feel angry, but I understand I need to calm the anger, because it is not the time to smash things, rather it is the time we need to press the officials to immediately identify the individuals who did hurt our friends, and these individuals have to be lawfully responsible and charged for what they had done.

In recent years, sexual harassment, egg attacking, and verbal abuses often violated international students around the University area, which happened often on University Ave. When egg incident happened two years ago, Chinese Student & Scholar Association took initiative and contacted with the officials in needs. Chinese Embassy in Ottawa, the local Chinese Culture Association, The City of Saint John and The Police Force, including the local Medias and Saint John community as whole had shown their great support. Chinese students believed their student body, and I believe that CSSA would always stand strongly under these solid supports.

“The police will be re-interviewing the victims and will be pressing to identify the individuals responsible.” Yes, for sure, criminal acts have to be handed to the Police Force, and we would love to hold our best faith to it. However, certainly, [COLOR="Red"]the criminal acts did cause much grief to the students, to our community, and extend to Saint John community as whole. [/COLOR]

The Police will have to take this into a greater consideration than ever. As the concern goes in our Chinese community, I believe that the majority of citizens in Saint John will support us in their best.

Chinese International Student in 5th year
University of New Brunswick, Saint John
Canada
August 7th 2007[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

嗯,丽写得真不错~ 我建议大家把丽的这封信打印下来,贴得到处都是,让所有人都看看。
包括上学的,上班的,起码让身边的人都知道这件事的严重性。让有中国人的地方都看得到这个,一定把事情的严重性强调到最大。好让所有人都重视。
[quote name='减肥没毅力']嗯,丽写得真不错~ 我建议大家把丽的这封信打印下来,[COLOR="Red"]贴得到处都是,[/COLOR]让所有人都看看。
包括上学的,上班的,起码让身边的人都知道这件事的严重性。让有中国人的地方都看得到这个,一定把事情的严重性强调到最大。好让所有人都重视。[/QUOTE]

到时候事情没有解决.人家反告你乱贴宣传广告.属于治标不治本,..........................................................................
第一.用当地媒体(中文报纸和英文报纸一起)宣传.
第二.找学校的校长级别或国际办公室.
第三.还是要大家自己小心.
第四.遇到不要怕.大声呼救.然后找身边可以防御的东西给往死里打.

离开SJ一年了,那么安静的小地方竟然出这种事情.就是我在VANCOUVER都没有听说过类似这种情况........希望同学们,朋友们自己保重了.俗话说的好............求人不如求自己.所以大家一定自己小心了.尽量别单独很晚出门.
女生们可以随身带着pepper spray,在walmart有卖的,上面应该划着一个熊的头像,是用来喷熊的,如果,我是说如果,碰上了,就拿那个喷他们的眼睛,(注意,如果他们已经没有能力站起来了,或是已经把他们喷哭了,就不要再喷了)。这个不算是武器,但是可以保护自己,而且如果警察问起来,就说是用来喷熊的。
sj从几年前就这样了,一直排斥欺负华人,
就是小乡村城市没见过其他国家的人就这样了
加拿大这样的多移民国家也会发生这样的事,真够恶心.
带把刀和二两牛肉。出事了就跟警察说我去朋友家做饭,结果这几个老外上来就往我刀上冲.弄的我很郁闷......
[quote name='减肥没毅力']女生们可以随身带着pepper spray,在walmart有卖的,上面应该划着一个熊的头像,是用来喷熊的,如果,我是说如果,碰上了,就拿那个喷他们的眼睛,(注意,如果他们已经没有能力站起来了,或是已经把他们喷哭了,就不要再喷了)。这个不算是武器,但是可以保护自己,而且如果警察问起来,就说是用来喷熊的。[/QUOTE]

SUMMER说的很对,喷到哭,或者不能站起来,或者不再袭击你,就要停手。这样就算正当防卫。 如果再进一步喷,就算故意伤人了。 如果万一出现这种紧急情况,请大家不要害怕正当防卫。但是,一定注意尺度。
又是一天过去了,又是一点消息没有。。。。。

也不知道大家的热情还能坚持几天

不说坐飞机开汽车,就是骑自行车,这三四天时间犯罪嫌疑人估计也骑到美国了。

也不知道加拿大和美国有没有引渡协议什么的,话又说回来了,这点小事也犯不上引一把的。

千古悬案又多了一宗。。。。

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